David,
I am so sorry to hear what you learned and so
sorry that it occurred. Had hoped that the gains were realistic and would
grow. I have waited to respond trying to decide what msg I wanted to
communicate. And I decided this was it. Sometimes that is the
outcome, you have every right to be hurt, angry and whatever else you feel.
Please remember that the feelings do not create license to act out (I
thought what you wrote made good sense) and for your sake I still recommend a thoughtful
response that utilizes both hemispheres of your brain.
It is in your best interest as well as the boys. And please do
limit what you share with the boys about the whys of the outcome of your
marriage as that is about the marriage not them or either of your roles as
parents. It also can create a sense of them needing to choose sides/loyalties
that is detrimental to your relationship with them and their own mental health.
It is ok to share how you feel (to a point) and what the plan of action
is so they can feel secure at this stage it is all about independence for them
and I know neither of you want them to regress.
How can I support you from here? Would it
be ok if I called to check in on you? I have some opportunities tomorrow. I also saw the appt for Monday at 5 and wondered
if that was you, both or her....any combination is fine by me but would like to
check in with you before then too.
Hi Cymbria,
It has been an interesting weekend, On
Saturday, Marie was in charge of homecoming and I went to visit my son at
OU. Thomas was due home at 1 and Marie went to bed while I waited up for
our homecoming king. I heard a buzz from her purse and looked to see if
Thomas had left a message. I found an unfamiliar phone and opened it
up. There is only one number being called on the phone, Ray
Lambert. There has been a total of 54 hours of calls on the phone
including some from Saturday. There was also a picture of Marie’s naked
butt and another of a hotel room. There is no doubt in my mind that she
has been continuing to carry on with Ray. I presume the month to month
phone has been recently purchased.
I was obviously crushed. I thought we
were making some progress, but obviously I was wrong. Perhaps this is why
she has been so circumspect with any time table for reunification. I did
send Ray a text stating simply “fuck you Ray, you have no honor”.
As an ex-military officer I thought that this might hit a nerve. I
appreciate it does take two to tango.
I asked Marie to leave that night. I
ranted some about Ray and how they have screwed up our family.
I did tell our sons about the situation.
It seems that she is on a track for mutual assured destruction, financially,
family, socially and perhaps her career. I see no benefit in keeping her
betrayal a secret.
I sent the email below yesterday.
Again, I am very sad and disappointed. I
am not sure if you have any advice but appreciate the opportunity to vent.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Marie Hanna
Subject: Re: Separation
Thank you for letting Thomas stay with you this
week.
Sent from my iPhone
Sent from my iPhone
Marie,
This is incredibly hard to write. As you
are probably aware I am very sad and disappointed. I thought we
were making progress but apparently I was wrong. I have talked to our
sons and explained things the best I can. Your continuing to carry on
with Ray Lambert does not work for me and I can see no benefit to our
family. He has tried to call your special phone multiple times. I
am impressed on how often and how much you talk.
It has been almost five months since you moved
out, putatively for the benefit of Thomas. I no longer think that is the
case. I think we should make our separation formal. It is not
what I wanted but I think that you are either in or out in a marriage, and you
appear out.
I will keep the Kia and the Camaro. There
is very little equity, if any, in the Kia. David can keep the Taurus and
we can put the title in his name. I think you will need to make other
arrangements for a car and insurance for Thomas, if you think that is a good
idea.
I would suggest that you do a change of address
form with the post office.
At this point I think it is best if we
communicate through email. Perhaps that may change sometime, but at this
point I fell like a ”woman scorned”. I would prefer that you not
come to the Royalgreen house and I will do the same for Stonegate. Let me
know which email you prefer.
I would propose that we wait until November 15th
and then split whatever is in the bank account and put any credit cards in
separate our separate names an no longer use them in a joint capacity. I
have noted that you have not put any expense checks from your work into the
joint account since January yet gas and other expenses show up on the
Amex. I will not put any extraordinary charges on the card. At that
point we can also get separate auto insurance policies.
The investments, pensions and retirement funds
will be much more tricky.
I suggest that we strictly adopt the
standard custody agreement which I am attaching. It provides
structure. I will follow Ray’s lead in his divorce settlement in that
after Thomas turns 18, I will not have any further obligations. We shall
see how Thomas and I are getting along. I have paid the health insurance
for 21 years but will not have obligation starting in March.
I am not sure there is too much more to
discuss. I do not see that more counseling will help with infidelity and
you seem intent on going down that road wherever it may lead.
I do hope that you will find your peace and
happiness at some point.
P.S.
I saw the picture of your ass on your cell
phone. Did you or Ray take it? It is not very flattering.
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